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WATCH: Candace Owens Doubles Down After Meeting with Erika Kirk and Turning Point USA – “I Did Not at all Recant ANY of my Suspicions”

by December 17, 2025
December 17, 2025

Candace Owens speaking into a microphone during a podcast episode, with a laptop and a large drink container on the table.

Candace Owens speaking into a microphone during a podcast episode, with a laptop and a large drink container on the table.

Former Turning Point USA lieutenant, BLEXIT Foundation co-founder, and podcaster Candace Owens opened up on her meeting with Turning Point CEO Erika Kirk, the widow of Turning Point co-founder Charlie Kirk, during a Tuesday episode of the Candace podcast. 

She opened the episode, telling her viewers “Shabbat Shalom” and “Happy Hanukkah,” as well as declaring, “Tucker Carlson is Adolf Hitler, and TikTok does need to be purchased by the Mossad,” apparently trolling her followers.

“Okay, you guys are crazy. You guys are absolutely crazy. The amount of people who attacked me for sending out a tweet being like, ‘Hey, I’m good, I’m alive, we had a very productive conversation,’ and they were like, ‘She got the call. She got the call. She’s betrayed us. She’s doing something else. I can’t believe it. This has all just been a show,’” Candace continued. “Calm down. Okay. What do you think happened? Erica said, ‘Stop.’ And then I was frozen for four and a half, four hours and 30 minutes, just like as I just put all of these talking points into my head? ”

Then, for more than 30 minutes, Owens discussed the meeting she had with Erika Kirk and doubled down on her skepticism over Charlie Kirk’s assassination.

This comes after Owens met with Erika Kirk and others from the Turning Point organization on Monday in “an extremely productive 4 1/2 hour meeting that I think we both feel should have taken place a lot earlier than it did,” Owens said in an X post following the much-anticipated meeting. The private meeting was in place of a public debate over Owens’s theories about Kirk’s murder after Owens declined to participate.

Their meeting followed a back-and-forth between the two in the media, where Erika Kirk appeared on Fox News last week and accused Candace Owens of “making hundreds and thousands of dollars every single episode, going after the people that I love because somehow they’re in on this.” Owens, a longtime friend of Charlie Kirk and vocal skeptic of the official narrative surrounding his death, responded, describing Erika’s interview as a “performance,” which she said “unmasked herself and the entire TPUSA machine in one interview.”

Then, on Saturday, Erika sat for a news town hall with CBS editor-in-chief Bari Weiss, where she said she was worried that theories about the assassination of her late husband, including some unclear claims about Egyptian planes, would taint the jury pool and jeopardize the case against accused Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson. But Owens accused Erika of “completely dodging the question by confronting a claim that we never made,” adding, “Literally NO ONE accused Erika or Charlie of flying on Egyptian planes.”

Owens doubled down on the Egyptian planes, telling her audience on Tuesday night, “I am certain that these Egyptian planes are incredibly shady, and that they were, in fact, tracking Turning Point USA Faith, broader events. Of course, Erika was at some of them, Charlie was at some of them, but it is– the pattern here is undeniable.” She further said that she plans to present tomorrow “overwhelming evidence that these planes regularly fly in and out of Israel” and that they’re “turning their transponder off each time that they do it.”

Owens had suggested the French Government, Israel/Netanyahu, Jewish donors, the US government/Deep State, TPUSA leadership, Erika Kirk, and many others could be behind Charlie Kirk’s assassination or a cover-up after the fact, making some noteworthy and fair observations.

Owens opened up further on her meeting with Erika, sharing that she did not know what to expect walking into the meeting, and that “Erika was very clear that they were sort of most upset with what I— obviously in a bit of a fever pitch— when I tweeted that it was a God-forsaken company and people should not give money to it, and I have to own that that’s aggressive.” She continued, “That is actually aggressive. In the retrospect, I was very frustrated, and I don’t know, I just I felt like we weren’t getting any answers, and there were so many lies, and then I was getting attacked for asking all meaningful questions that was within their capacity to answer.”

But “Erika owned the lies, the lies, or rather, I guess they would cage it as miscommunications that were coming from various people at the company,” Ownes said. And the two cleared up the air on text messages allegedly sent by Charlie Kirk the night before he was assassinated, where he said that he believed he would be killed in the near future, which Erika vehemently denied last week during an interview with Glenn Beck, saying, “I have his cell phone,” and he “didn’t say that.”

Still, Candace said she wasn’t happy with some of the explanations she received in the meeting, where, according to Candace, they told her to ask “any question that you want.”

“I did not at all recant any of my suspicions, and I understand people disagree with me about particular people at Turning Point USA,” she said.

Candace specifically pointed to to Terrell Farnsworth, the guy who took SD cards out of the cameras after Charlie Kirk was shot; claims from other top Turning Point leaders; Turning Point Faith co-chair Pastor Rob McCoy and his son, Mikey McCoy, who was present when Charlie was shot; claims that there was no exit wound because Charlie’s bone density made him a “man of steel”; the narrative that Tyler Robinson is the actual shooter; Charlie Kirk allegedly turning down $150 million from Israel; and more.

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